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Beijing Part 4, Day 3 (cont’d)

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We wandered to another part of the park where parents laid out their child’s ‘resume’ hoping for a marriage connection / partner. A woman yelled at me when I tried to take a picture. Seems it’s bad luck to be photographed. I understood it puts a pox on the intended. I laid low and managed a non-intrusive video on my iPad mini but I cannot upload it. Sorry.

Spring in all its glory

Spring in all its glory

Interesting nuggets about marriage:

  • Either you pay for a matchmaker ($$$ if you have lots—probably not) or your mother struggles along in your best interests with or without your knowledge
  • We encountered children in the park, but the majority were boys—yes there were girls—the odds appeared greater than the statistics
  • The ratio: 140 boys are born to 100 girls nowadays
  • Dating services are now common and do a vigorous business, but many cannot afford them and anyway MOM has your best interests at heart
  • Young people pursue good careers and work long hours with lengthy travel times to and from work
  • There is no time to date
  • More and more young people prefer to find their own mate
  • Some young men hold down several jobs and still cannot afford a house or apartment
  •  Every potential bride wants a house or apartment. As well her family expects a bride price—even in the country—a sort of dowry
  • Mismatches between city vs. country / education vs. job level mean less chance of finding a marriageable partner
  • Stories abound about established career women. A female with a good job may be willing to stand in as breadwinners if even a younger male would co-operate. After all, her clock is ticking, but without a job of his own, he’ll shy away.
  • Rich men spent much time and money choosing the right bride through matchmakers since the ratio of females versus males are so uneven
Wikipedia Commons

Wikipedia Commons

More tidbits about the people:

  • Diabetes and high blood pressure high
  • Exercises morning and evening, especially seniors
  • China is second highest consumer of sugar after India
  • They add sugar to everything
  • Different breakfast by area / region
  • Average man’s breakfast is in Beijing: steamed dumplings and buns, dim sum, and soup
  • Use straw to drink soup
  • Mandarin is the main official language
  • Written language is the same everyone in China, only the dialects are different

Next on June 20th, Beijing Part 5, Day 3 (cont’d)

  1. Temple of Heaven
  2. Tiananmen Square

 

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127 thoughts on “Beijing Part 4, Day 3 (cont’d)

  1. Interesting view into another culture. Must have been fascinating to compare with what you’re used to. Happy weekend, Tess. 🙂

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  2. I really enjoyed reading this and learning these things. “140 boys are born to 100 girls nowadays”—Wow, that’s frightening. If they keep that up, women will be one of their most sought after commodities. :/

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  3. I read an interesting article a while back, I think in the NY Times about the roving, frustrated young men who because of the numbers couldn’t get a good bride. Without that they were turning to an outsider’s life with much higher rates of homosexuality due to circumstances.

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    • That’s not good, is it? See what too tight rules can cause? When the one-child rule was pronounced, it seems no-one did much future planning, or thinking….
      Every government makes mistakes.

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  4. Wow I am imaging the marketing for a potential spouse in the park. I wonder what are the major qualifications on the resume? It must have been amazing to be immersed into such a different culture. I believe my travel envy is flaring up again.

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  5. Are there really more boys born than girls born or are the girls that are born abandoned in orphanages because boys are more ‘desirable’ in a one-child country? I know a significant number of Canadian couples who have travelled to China to adopt – and they ONLY have girls available (many of them are left ‘anonymously’ at orphanages because the parents WANT a boy … WHY?!?!?!? If your son can’t find wife, what’s the point?) So sad! Fascinating insights, Tess. Looking forward to hearing/reading more about your trip.

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    • Hi Margo. Yes, I have heard about couples adopting Chinese girls. I’d forgotten about that. Hmm. Interesting. Must check that out.
      Nice to see you Margo. Glad you enjoy reading here. ❤ Thank you.

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  6. I saw elsewhere the ratio was 114 to 100. Sex-selective abortion, infant genocide keep it that way. Most cultures traditionally prefer sons over daughters since sons provide for you when you get old.

    Enjoying the story of your holiday. 🙂

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    • Thank you, Christine. If we went by the ratio of boys vs girls we encountered while out and about, I’d say we saw probably 3 little girls and the rest boys.
      Someone just mentioned about Canadian couples when adopted girls from orphanages there. I remember reading about that. Lots of changes going on and not all truth.

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  7. I don’t like people yelling at my friends.
    I think I’ll curse her.

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  8. Can you imagine all of that stress? Marriage, work, children, not enough women folk, there are staff employed to find a mate…….

    The sugar intake surprises me. So both India and China are ahead of America? That surprises me greatly.

    I like all of these first hand observations.

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  9. That’s fascinating. The more I hear about other nations and their cultures, the happier I am here. Of course, I’m pretty set in my ways. The idea that parents would pick your mate sounds ridiculous and intrusive, until you consider the divorce rate when we pick or own mate is over 50%. Which is better?

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    • It is ridiculous and young people are opting on finding their own mates and the parents are giving up control. On the other hand, while they scramble to make a career, they don’t have time to date because of the long hours working and commuting. I wish I knew how to post my 6-second video. WordPress doesn’t like it. Grrr.
      I am soooo happy to live in North American. I could kiss the ground.

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  10. Very interesting tidbits. Was surprised to read about the rate of diabetes and high blood pressure; but maybe shouldn’t be, considering the high sugar intake. Also surprised that more sugar is consumed than in the U.S. I appreciate the first-hand observations. Thanks for this informative post.

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    • Thank you, Huntie. I almost fell over when out tour guide told us this. I also found out they produce tons of sugar but is it for export or their own use, I don’t know. As well maybe the new money is helping the sweet tooth.

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  11. A great post – we live in a global world and when we travel, we learn so much about each other.

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  12. I can’t say that I would look forward to a Chinese breakfast!

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  13. China is now becoming an interest of mine, learning loads thanks for sharing. thier food does put me off a little though 😉

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  14. I’m really impressed by how many facts and information you gathered and recorded! Really interesting. I was surprised about the sugar, but actually now that I think about it, if ever I have a Chinese meal, all those sauces are definitely on the sweet side. Looking forward to the next instalment!

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    • Thanks, Vanessa. We had good and informative guides in all the cities we traveled to. I took notes when I could keep up or stay awake. Actually, the first couple of days I was slow on the mark.
      The sugar threw me for a loop. I had no idea either.

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  15. Fascinatingly! I am also learning similar things in my Chinese Culture short course! But I didn’t know about the dating services and the ration of women to men! Wow! 🙂 Love the pix too!

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  16. The one child and selective abortion issues have created problems for China. Now they are paying a high price. Soon their sons will begin to pursue ‘brides’ from outside China, this will introduce something very new into the culture, one must wonder what will happen.

    Thank you once again.

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  17. The thought of arranged marriages is so foreign to us but so common in other parts of the world. Your interesting facts were exactly that. One in particular really jumped out at me – largest consumer of sugar!!! Wow – I would never have guessed that one 🙂

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    • You could have knocked me over with a grain of sugar when I hear that one too.
      More and more the young people insist on choosing their own partners but there are still those who are too busy carving out a career and don’t have time for the dating scene. Then there are the poor who’s family want to better their family even if only a little bit.

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  18. Thank you for another journey log. I’m also surprised about the sugar. You certainly have gained a lot of data to share with us…did you actually holiday or take notes ~ smiles xx

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  19. wow. I so wish you could have caught the negotiations on film. Re the disproportionate number of boys to girls–apparently infant girls are still being killed at alarming rates. Now they have so few girls and so many boys that girls have the upper hand. Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it? 😉

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  20. Interesting about the boy v. girl birth ratio. Not sure if there still is a one-child- per-family law. Having worked with a few girls adopted from Chinese orphanages, I learned many of the girls were given up so that the family could try for a boy.

    Thnx for all the facts, Tess!

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  21. Loving all the photos and information. Xxxx

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  22. Fascinating read this Tess, I am learning so much about China from you. You learnt a lot while you were away, it’s so great that you are sharing it here and making a journal of your travels. Sorry you got shouted at though 😦 Still, one musn’t be ‘poxed’, that wouldn’t make for good marriage material, no way, no how 😉

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  23. Now that they have more of an idea of what is going on beyond the Asian world, I’m a little surprised that women are so intense on getting married at all. A baby in the oven does not require a husband, just a man.

    I know, I sound brash. Just my mood this morning.

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    • I guess woman everywhere hear the clock ticking more than others. IIlegitimate children are illegal and are non-persons and are considered non-existent, but they exist and now want support from the government.

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  24. The thought of having mother involved in finding a mate is truly scary. Adds a whole new meaning to the expression “Tiger Mom” but also adds some context. As a mother of sons the world seems to be inching the bar ever higher for males with girls’ expectations of a mate becoming more and more unrealistic. I imagine a lot of the boys secretly buckling under the pressure.

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    • More and more young people pick their own mates these days but then out of necessity due to shortage of females and less time to socialize, I can understand falling back on old ways. Seeing all these resumes laid out in the part was an odd experience. Girls for sale anyone? Ick.

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  25. This sounds so much like India – people working more and more and having less time for self. The unfortunate difference is that here, the bride’s family pays the dowry and a lesser-than-expected amount can cause untold misery to the bride. Hmm..can see the positive effects of gender discrimination in China! 😉

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  26. So is the 140/100 due to aborting female babies? I’ve heard of this in India but China too?

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    • Yes, China as well. In many parts of the world the male child is preferred to female.
      The male will look after his parents in their old age but the female will marry and live with her husband’s family. At least that’s how it used to be. The younger generation want what they see in the movies and not live with parents of any kind.

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  27. I was interested in your fact about the sugar consumption. Apparently western populations are very high consumers of corn sugar (source of our obesity problems). I wonder if the statistic you were quoted was based on cane sugar consumption? This may shed a completely light on the result!

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  28. Fascinating facts about the difference and the similarities. I too assume the skewed gender balance is the outcome of abortion.

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  29. Fascinating stuff, Tess. But I sure hope that Photography Pox is inaccurate; otherwise America (the home of the free and the land of the selfie) is doomed.

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  30. I just found your site via NOtquiteold. Some great info on China, I was there a couple of years ago, and was surprised to find that we were regularly asked to have our photo taken, I had thought they had become used to our white faces by now. Interesting facts on marriage, makes Internet dating (i’ve just posted about that) look positively easy by comparison!

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    • Yes, that still goes on as recently as this year.
      The young are pushing to make their own choices but life doesn’t always cooperate so Mama is still good to have in your corner. I was surprised how many had laid out resumes of their sons or daughters.

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  31. Tess, You are doing a fantastic job with these posts. They are fascinating and educational at the same time. I’m not surprised about MOM having the upper hand. The diabetes seems to be in line with the food you’ve been telling us about. It’s interesting how the information is all weaving together.

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  32. Wow ……. it is amazing….The things that people do when they are lead around by ticking body clocks and money and skewed sex ratio……

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  33. Thanks for taking us with you on the tour Tess 🙂 Fascinating!

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  34. Interesting stats, Tess. I recently watched a program about a Chinese guy saying how difficult it is to find a bride. I had no idea about the sugar consumption there either. Thanks for all the interesting info.

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  35. those are some interesting stats Tess, especially about the sugar. I would have thought the consumption would have been on the low end. Not too many desserts come to mind, from this part of the world. 😉 Thanks for continuing to share your trip tidbits!

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    • We saw no cakes when we were there. Dessert consisted of fruit. MacDonald’s, Hagen Daaz, Dairy Queen and Kentucky Fried Chicken do brisk business there.
      Hagen Daaz serve up a two-tiered tea tray with all kinds of gooey offerings and the place was packed with young people.

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  36. I’m so enjoying your trip to China. This one made me sad. To abandon, abor, or kill baby girls – and that seems to be feet on the ground about the ratio – absolutely tragic. Funny thing is, it’s not the Chinese boy who cares for his aging parents – it’s his wife!
    The world is greatly askew when it comes to those who have babies, countries who have so many in orphanages, and couples who wan them. I wish parents would enjoy their children without such burden resulting in such violent decisions.
    Maybe it’s excessive sugar intake making them so crazy over there.

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    • True. All true and sad.
      It IS his wife who looks after the aging parents but they’re counting on his money to support them all.
      I remember not so many years ago, Canadian families adopted Chinese children but a stop has been put to that just like in Russian. Since late last year it is allowed that if one of the parents were only children (born before 1980), they can have a second child. The gender disparity is too great and something must be done although other questions arise.
      The sugar excess shocked me. I had no idea.

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  37. Love the facts. Bristling for your scathing commentary as to culture comparison. I know you have a mouthful to say about your own culture, but I am dying for your opinion of China’s ❤

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    • Hey, Red. I am merely sharing what I saw and heard, straight from the hip. There is more that we, as a tour group, could never see. There is always someone who can speak a little English, more as we traveled farther south, but I wouldn’t want to be in a foreign country, so diverse, without a tour group.
      Only now, in posting here, am I processing my experience because the days were so filled for over three weeks. ❤ ❤ <3.
      Thanks for dropping by. Lovely to see you. 🙂

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  38. 140 Males to 100 Females basically means 40 female embryos killed unnecessarily, doesn’t it? That’s one in seven pregnancies interrupted because the child has the “wrong” sex.
    Tragic

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    • This also include hidden orphanages with damaged children. Remember years back, lots of westerners were adopting their babies? That was before the Russian orphanages (I think). Both put a stop to that even though the income (money) must have been awesome.

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  39. Tess, good stuff! I remember reading that Russia and China may find the population problem solved between them. The Russians have lots of women, but the women don’t want Russian men – very high alcoholism rate. Curiousier and curiousier!

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  40. Interesting facts about marriage, and I never would have guessed about the sugar consumption. Thanks for sharing, Tess.

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  41. Female infanticide is common in China and India — sex-selective abortion usually means the female fetus will be aborted rather than the male. Daughters are considered a liability…population control is a secondary factor. How sad and horrible for the female of this world! What we humans do to ourselves with our crazy thinking! We can only appreciate the fact that we were born in the countries that we have been or we might not exist. Great candid shot of the bride and bridegroom!

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    • Last December they finally realized there aren’t enough females. Duh. You know, like ovaries make the world go round?

      They have some convoluted formula for people who can have a second child, but not everyone.

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  42. Such a fascinating blog & life!

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  43. haha, my boyfriend told me about that practice before, it’s crazy, but yes, still very common.

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